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Bits and bobs is my many small things make post category. Feel free to comment on only some of the things.

*After no one in the household being sick for several weeks, the kid brought home a nasty cold that we all got. I have very mild case and am still up and about but R and E where pretty wiped out. I've been doing quite a bit more around the house the last couple of days to make up for it.

*I was listening to an episode of Be The Serpent,, one of the Hugo nominated fancasts, about personality taxonomies and it made me realize that my trouble with people using Hogwarts houses as shorthand for personality types is that everyone means different, sometimes very different, things by the different houses so its not actually a useful shorthand at all because I have no idea what any one person means. But then I did go read some Sorting Hat Chats and think about different morals systems. I'm definitionally someone with a felt moral system even I can't quite figure out if that makes me a Gryffindor or a Hufflepuff primary in that system.

*This morning I did a big Passover shop. I bought lots of veggies and three kinds of matzo (normal, spelt and whole wheat) and chicken for the soup. I have so many people coming to my Seder. Its going to be awesome! There will be mulitple kids to look for the afikoman. I will feed people. Do you have plans for Passover or Easter? Or just fun things to do this coming weekend?
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One of my friends who lives in the UK is going to be in San Diego for a work trip. I'm going to fly down for a day a see and see her in person! So I thought I'd ask here if anyone has advice for things to do in San Diego?
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Yotsuba&!, Vols 2-7 by Kiyohiko Azuma This slice of life manga about 5 year old Yotsuba and her friends and neighbors is really cute!

Golden Kamuy vol 1 by Satoru Noda I continue to enjoy this rather gory historical fiction manga. Its maybe a little info-dumpy but I'm into info dumps about how to catch and eat squirrels and other wilderness survival stuff. The art is very pretty I love how detailed the costumes and tools are. Plus I've started to care about the characters -- the story is getting more of found family vibe as it goes on.

Yona of the Dawn Vol 1-2 by Mizuho Kusanagi This was rec'ed to me by a friend who loves it, but I'm not finding very compelling. It just seems to have lot of tropes that I'm bored with in YA, dead moms, lost heirs seeking revenge, shifting alliances. I doubt this is fair but its not what I'm in the mood for right now so I'm not going to keep reading the series.

A Drifting Life by Yoshihiro Tatsumi trans. Taro Nettleton manga memoir about a mangaka in post war Japan. Since I've been reading a lot of manga lately I thought I'd like to learn a bit more about the history of form. This was maybe a bit more focused on publishing that I was looking for but was still fascinating. And as and add bonus I enjoyed the built enviroment details about the various places he lived.

The Rambunctious Garden: Saving Nature in a Post-Wild World by Emma Marris I'm starting to get frustrated with ecology books that acknowledge that Native Americans manged the landscape before European settlement but don't acknowledge that Native Americans are still around and value those practices for cultural reasons. Aside form that problem this pretty good introduction to the idea that there's no such thing as untouched wilderness and some of the practical implications of that. Since I've studied environmental history none of these ideas where new to me but it was nice to have them in one small book.

Not For Use In Navigation: Thirteen Stories by Iona Datt Sharma I'm about halfway through this collection. The stories in it are so beautiful! but I'm reading it pretty slowly because they are the kind of stories that I need focus on, and then I want to let that story sink in before I rush off and read the next one. Still very much recommenced. (NB I received an ARC of this form the author)

Guardian I finished watching this! It was such an intense experience! I'm not really sure what to say about it. I loved it but I also found the ending pretty heartbreaking. Also I'm still confused about quite a lot things. But I've found some other people's thoughts to read and that helped make sense of some of the things. Maybe I will write some more coherent thoughts up in bit. For now I'm excited to go lurk in the fandom. Its very nice for me that the show has pretty active fandom here on DW. I can actually find conversations. Maybe I will be brave an join in.
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It’s been a mixed reading year for me so far. This winter I was tired and sick a lot and didn’t have great focus. So I ended up reading a lot comics and manga since I find that easier to read. So by the numbers I have read a lot of books already this year: 67 total. 49 of those are some kind of sequential art -- and reading lots sequential art has been pretty great. I finally finished reading Fruits Basket which I started but never finished year and years ago. I read the first two volumes of Fence, and Lucy Knisley’s new graphic memoir. I tried a bunch of new to me manga series, some of which I really enjoyed.

Well the 1st quarter of 2019 is complete so it's time to do a check in with my reading. After I didn’t do very well on my reading goals for 2018 I decided to set relatively few simple goals for this year. So when with two goals. Let see how I’m doing with both of them

Goal 1: Read 30 books by non-white authors. stretch goal 40

So far I’ve read 39 books by non-white authors in 2019. So I’ve already succeeded at my base goal and have almost met my stretch goal! As mentioned above


Goal 2: Read 15 non-fiction books

So far I’ve read 6, mostly comics, and also one prose book which was mostly read in 2018. But I did just finish a prose nonfiction book. So I guess I’m on track for this goal too.

Anyways I deliberately set myself easy goals and I’m doing pretty well one them. So for now I’m going to just keep reading fun things that strike my fancy. I’m looking forward to reading more manga and I’ve got a copy of The Raven Tower by Ann Leckie to read when I’m feeling focused enough for a whole novel.

How is your reading going so far this year? If you set yourself reading goals are you happy with your progress on them? Read any really awesome things?
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The Hugo Finalist where announced this morning! You can see the full list here. I'm quite delighted with many things on the light. Xuya is a finalist for Best Series! I've been nominating in every year since Best Series was introduced and I'm so happy its on this list this year. My friends at [community profile] ladybusiness are nominated for best Fanzine! They do amazing work and they published some of my pieces so I guess that means my work is nominated too! AO3 is finalist for Best Related Work! I haven't read much of the short fiction but I'm looking forward to checking it out. And the Lodestar has name. Still not tried of seeing it in official communications. And the finalist for the list looks pretty good.

Fansplanning is doing a survey on shipping. Its open to everyone one -- they would really like to reach people out side of transformative works fandom so please take the survey and pass it along to your friends. I just took it and it was pretty quick.

Marissa Lingen has new essay up at Uncanny: "That Never Happened: Misplaced Skepticism and the Mechanisms of Suspension of Disbelief"
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I try to make sure that the collection of picture books we have at home features a diverse set of characters. One thing I've really struggled with is finding books with queer characters where their queerness is not a problem. There a fair number of books where some is queer and the book explains that that's ok, but I want to show my kid that queer people are normal and can be the part of all kinds of stories. So I was super excited to find Harriet Gets Carried Away by Jessie Sima about a little girl who has an adventure and also has two dads who are just her dads. I bought it and read it to my kid today and its super cute! Anyways I thought I'd share in case anyone else out there is also looking for this type of picture book.
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*The weather has been much nicer lately. We've still had some rainy days but the days in between have been sunny and warm. I'm enjoying it very much. Plus no one in my household has been sick for while now. When I go on walks around the neighborhood there's lots of flowers in bloom. The jasmine is particularly lovely.

*We are starting to think about Passover which this year starts on April 19. So far that most means we are trying to eat all the not-kosher for Passover stuff in the freezer in the next couple of week. Also we've been eating lots of pasta. I have also agreed to make 30 blank matzo covers for preschool students to decorate. So I'm planning a trip to the fabric store this afternoon.

*These days I'm much less likely to read a book for very short time than I used to be. I tend to save reading for when I have a least a little chuck of time say at least 15 minutes. I used to be one of those people who carried a book every where and read in a spare amount of time. But now I like to be able to sink into my reading a little bit more, I like getting absorbed and not having to worry about the outside world. Not those little gaps are more likely to be filled with looking at my phone. My reading habits have change quite a bit in a lot of different ways over time which in itself is not surprising but I keep being surprised when I notice. I guess because my image of myself is a reader is big part of my identify.
forestofglory: E. H. Shepard drawing of Christopher Robin blowing up a large blue ballon (ballon)
I recently finished watching the fourth and final season of The Legend of Korra. Overall I enjoyed it a lot. I have many thoughts that I want share about it.

cut for spoilers )
forestofglory: Glasses and books (books)
I’ve been using Goodreads to track my to-read list and my reading since 2010. Over that time I’ve figured out several tricks to help make the most of Goodreads as a source of data about my reading --especially for tracking my personal reading goals. I find that Goodreads has lot of useful functionality that’s not well documented and can be somewhat clunky to use. So I thought I’d write up some of my most-used ways to get info out of Goodreads.

All of these tips are for the web browser version of Goodreads. They all begin at the “My Books” page. You can get there by clicking on “My Books” at the top leftish (after “Goodreads” and “Home”) of the screen.

Show the intersection of two (or more) Shelves
Goodreads lets you add lots and lots of tags or “Shelves,” as they call them. Sometimes it’s handy to see a list of works that you’ve tagged with more than one shelf. For example, you might have one shelf called “fantasy” and one called “lgbt+”. If a friend asked you to rec them some queer fantasy, it would be helpful to see what books have both tags. So here’s how you do that.

Read more... )

Show all books with a tag read in a year
This is super helpful when you have a reading goal like “read 15 non-fiction books this year.”

Read more... )


Sort by date published
Did you know you can get goodreads to sort your books by all kinds of things that don’t show up in the default view? My personal favorite is date published, but you can also sort by things like condition, or even recommender. I’ll be using date published for this example though.

Read more... )

I hope some of you find this helpful! Let me know if anything is confusing and I’ll try and help you out. And please share any Goodreads tips that you have.
forestofglory: E. H. Shepard drawing of Christopher Robin and Pooh floating in a upturned  umbrella , with the word Ahoy in the corner (The Brain of Pooh)
I'm covered most of my recent manga reading in my last post but I'm still looking for more manga recs. But here's a bit about some of the non-manga things I've been reading and watching lately.

Legend of Korra Season 4 I'm working on a longer write up for this so hopefully more later. Meantime if anyone has recs for criticism or fanworks for Korra or ALTA that would be great!

Fruits Basket I finished it! I have such sense of closure about finishing this manga that I first read about 15 years ago. It was like a gift from my younger self. I liked the ending but I kinda wish the characters had more agency in one of the major events.

The Lives of Christopher Chant by Diana Wynne Jones One of my friends read this for the first time recently and inspired me to do a reread. Its still very charming!

Kid Gloves: Nine Months of Careful Chaos by Lucy Knisley Its so nice to read something about pregnancy that acknowledges that it can really suck even when you want a baby. Lucy's pregnancy was much harder than mine, but I hated being pregnant. And the stuff about her miscarriage was really affirming if hard to read because it reminded me of my own experience.

Never After: Thirteen Twists on Familiar Tales by Marie Brennan Collection of flash fairy tale retellings. I am generally a fan of Brennan's work but this was bit dark for my tastes.

Ben's Bakery and the Hanukkah Miracle by Penelope Peters Gay Jewish Hockey romance. A lot of the conflict in this had to do with the couple having different levels of Jewish observance and since they where both more observant than I am I found that stressful. And honestly the more observant dude was kinda a jerk about the whole thing. It did have donuts and cute pee wee hockey team though.

Guardian This Chinese drama seems like it is popular here on DW so I thought I'd check it out. I've watched the 1st 17 episodes and I'm really liking it so far.

I'm a little confused by this because its not really my usual thing. It centers around police group that investigates the supernatural, and I'm generally not into the police or shows with a lot of crime and violence. It's also not great on female characters either. And it can be confusing at times. Reasons the show is confusing 1) subtitles I'm not great at these at best of times but the ones for this show are extra confusing, sometimes the English grammar is wonky, names are transliterated differently in different episodes, every now and again the subtitles are just missing. 2)This my first time watching a Chinese drama and I'm not familiar with the conventions 3) the plot is pretty complex with bits of backstory being reviled slowly through flashbacks so there's a lot to keep track of 4) there's probably plot holes and stuff but I can't tell for sure because of 3. Anyways I've decided to just roll with it and be confused and that's working out ok for me.

So that's all things I don't like so I should talk about what I do like. The drama is biased on a Boys Love novel but they aren't allowed to have gay romance on TV in China. But what this seams to mean in practice is that they've taken out all the kissing but left in all the flirting. So I really enjoy the relationship between the leads. So many intense looks! And one of them keeps feeding the other one. I generally like the team, they spend a fair amount of time bounding/bickering which is good fun. Plus I just enjoy the fact that its bit cheesy with melodramatic bits a silly specially effects. Its not sophisticated to admit to liking cheesy stuff but its defiantly something I enjoy.

SG1 This is what R and I are watching together. We are doing a good parts version and only watching the episodes that he thinks are good. Its my favorite level of serialized where each episode is contained story but the reset button isn't pushed and there's some meta plot. I enjoy the team dynamics, and how they all look out for each other. Every now and again they say something really sexist or racist and I have to yell at the TV. We are currently in the middle of season 2. The last episode featured a body swap machine which I image is a boon to fic writers.
forestofglory: Glasses and books (glasses)
I've been reading a lot of manga and comics lately. I want to read more manga but I don't really know what's out there, since its been such a long time since I really paid attention manga. So please tell me about manga you like. I'm up for trying anything, though please warn me if something is gory or dark or there is a dead mom. Here's some thoughts on some things I've read recently to give you an idea of where I'm at.

Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon v1 by Naoko Takeuchi I've never read or watch any Sailor Moon before so I thought it was high time I tried some. This was cute but confusing in places. Also transformation sequences are much less awesome in comics than in anime.

Yotsuba&!, Vol. 1 by Kiyohiko Azuma Cute slice of life manga about toddler who moves to a new town. I thought it did a good job of portraying what's awesome about little kids -- and why they are exhausting.

A Bride's Story, Vol. 1 by Kaoru Mori I liked all the historical detail but I couldn't get past the child marriage that's central to the plot. It's just not ok!

Cross Game vol. 1-3 by Mitsuru Adachi I read the 1st omnibus. I really liked the art in this. The faces are very expressive. But I was upset by the fact that child character dies suddenly. I was not expecting that. Its most a sports manga about baseball which is fine but wasn't really grabbing me.

Fruits Basket by Natsuki Takaya I got up to volume 10 in the collectors edition and someone else at the library has checked out the last two volumes -- and they are now two and half weeks over due. I have ordered a different edition ILL because I really want to finish this and find out how it all works out.

Golden Kamuy vol 1 by Satoru Noda Well this really gory and thus not my usual fair at all. But I've got the next volume form the library and am enjoying it. It historical fiction set in early 20th century after Russo-Japanese War on Hokkaido Island, and I'm loving all the details of the setting and the art. There's a lot of wilderness survival (including eating squirrel brains and other gross things) and I'm especially enjoying those bits.

Anyways I'd love some more recs for manga to try out!
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I had great time at FOGcon, a small local convention in Walnut Creek, CA, last weekend. I was bit nervous going in because the last few years I've gone with my friend [personal profile] owlmoose but this year she's on the JoCoCruise and so couldn't make it. So I was worried I was going to spend lots of time standing around awkwardly not talking to people. But if fact I talked to many awesome people.

On Friday afternoon I went out to Walnut Creek with R and the kid an we had lunch together before the con. Then I went to get checked in and register for the con. At reg they always have lots of stickers and pens so I wrote pronouns and "Forestofglory" (since my badge listed by legal name) and put some cute stickers on my badge.

Then I went to a panel on "Friends and Found Chosen" which was really interesting. The panelist talked about friendships changing over time, the line between a friend and chosen family member, why queer are more likely to form chosen families, and more.

cut for length )
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Well now its been 2019 for a a couple of months but I wanted to do a post about my favorite stories 2018 before the Hugo nominations close on March 15. 2018 wasn’t a great short fiction reading year for me. I got a new job mid-year and that slowed down my reading a whole lot. But I did read some really excellent stories that I want to share with people. So it no particular order here are the stories:

Short story

“Flow” by Marissa Lingen — This story is amazing! It's about disability and loss, but my favorite bit is how it addresses troupes about caring for each other and care taking. I loved how it addressed both taking care of people and taking care of the environment.

“Lines of Growth, Lines of Passage” by Marissa Lingen — A story about a soccer who finds herself trapped in a tree. Lingen does great job of describing what the feeling of being in a tree. But it's also a story about what she learns from that experience.

“50 Ways to Leave Your Fairy Lover” by Aimee Picchi — This super cute story in the form of letter form a grandmother to a granddaughter. I loved how it played with fairy tale tropes.

"The War of Light and Shadow, in Five Dishes" by Siobhan Carroll — This a rather dark story about war but it also a story full of food details and I really loved the way the food fit into the story.

Hunting On Ethera by M. Raoulee — This is a prefect me story featuring a mom, robots, and ecology!

A Compendium of Architecture and the Science of Building by Kate Elliott
— This is a prequel to Elliott’s Spiritwalker Trilogy but it can be read without knowing anything about the rest of the series. I liked it as story about non-toxic masiclincity and mentorship.

“Lava cake for the Apocalypse” by Wendy Nikel — A very short story about food, history and remembrance.

Four-Point Affective Calibration by Bogi Takács — Another quite short piece about emotion and communication.

Noveltete

”The Thing About Ghost Stories” by Naomi Kritzer — A lovely story about why we tell ghost stories and dealing with lost. (CN: dead mom, but I loved it anyways)

“If at First You Don’t Succeed, Try, Try Again,” by Zen Cho — This charming story about an imugi and life not going the way you expect it to.

“Left to Take the Lead” by Marissa Lingen — A story about family both of origin and found. As always Lingen does great things with relationships between generations. I also really enjoyed the getting a spacer born person’s perspective on what it's like to live on Earth.


Novella

Sing for the Coming of the Longest Night by Katherine Fabian and Iona Datt Sharma — I just adored this. It’s quiet book full of things I love like magical London, a viewpoint character who is a mom, and queer found jewish family. The depiction of shabbat in this book really got at what Jewish ritual means to me. Just a really lovely story.

Exit Strategy by Martha Wells— The final Murderbot novella, though there is a novel coming in 2020. This was great series and particularly liked how it wrapped up. It's about a security bot who would really just like to be left alone to watch its media but has to constantly deal with humans in danger and evil corps. A big part of the delight of these books is Murderbots voice.

The Tea Master and the Detective Aliette de Bodard — A Xuya-verse re-imaging of Sherlock Holmes. A nice take on two prickly people learning to work together.

Spellswept by Stephanie Burgis The prequel novella to the wonderful Snowspelled — I loved this look a younger Cassandra and the romance it was super sweet!

The Flowers of Vashnoi
— A novella about one of my favorite fictional moms having and adventure involving bio-remedation? Yes please!


All and all 2018 was good year for short SFF and I’m sad I couldn’t read more of of the short SFF published last year. What where your favorites?
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In about a week and half, March 8-10 I will be at FOGcon in Walnut Creak CA. It a small local (to me) SFF convention. I'm excited to be spending a weekend talking about books! I'm going to be on a couple of panel which should be fun. Are any of my readers going? Let me know, I'd love to meet up.
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*My kid brought home a stomach bug and we were all sick over the weekend. I'm still not feeling fully recovered.

* A lot of people I know are into found family in SFF. And I like it too but it struck me today that a lot of SFF media is bad at family of origin. Like there's my whole thing about moms. But also SFF is not great at siblings, or cousins or aunts and doesn't do a lot of large complex families.

*kinda relatedly I think the reason I'm so interested in fiction about mentorship is that I really want to be someone's mentor someday. Too bad that I'm not really an expert at anything and am thus not sure what I could mentor someone in.

*I really hate it when I have hold on something at library and the person who has checked out the book doesn't return it on time. Please, other person who I've never met I want my turn to read the books.
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My latest Short and Sweet column "Pals for Robots" is up! Check it out for some of my favorite short stories about robots and community.
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I'm trying to articulate a thing I don't like in fiction. It has to do with the characters and the reader/audience not knowing the same things. I was watching and episode of TV where a character travels to a parallel universe and to me as viewer it was very obvious what had happened but it took the character half the episode. This was so frustrating! They spent so much time being confused about it.

I also don't like when the characters know things but the author is hiding it form the audience. If the characters are hiding it form the reader, or only a character who is not the view point character knows then that can be ok. I can think of lots of example here but they are all spoilerific. But like in old mysteries when the detective has solved the case but waits until everyone is there to explain. (I think some mystery readers who like to guess the answer enjoy this?)

I really hate suspense so narratives that keep hinting at dark secretes or that something awful is going to happen just make me anxious.

I was listening to the latest episode of the Reading The End podcast and one of the Jennys mentioned she hated being in the dark in stories. I don't think this quite the same thing. I can be confused if the characters are confused. And I really like that thing where the author just throws you into the middle of the world and you figure out how it works but piece together little details. "Inculing" I think its called.

Anyways what do you think of audience character information miss-matches? Do you like them? not like them? Only like them under certain circumstances?
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A while ago I mentioned looking for Theater fluff so here's an update on what I've found so far.

Drama by Raina Telgemeier reced by [personal profile] ambyr I’d read this before but went to reread after the rec. This was just what I wanted, good mix of tech stuff and feeling set during a middle school musical. I especially liked that it focused on backstage characters more than the actors.

The Backstagers, Vol.1& 2 by James Tynion IV Vol 1 was reread. This was fun but I wanted more actually theater tech and less magic.

Backstage Prince by Kanoko Sakurakouji This manga showed up when I looked up the Backstagers on goodreads and since it is only two volumes I decided to check it out. I was able get it via ILL. I was a bit disappointed with this. I want lots of kabuki theatre and it most just kinda boring Shojo romance.

The Importance of Being On Stage by aralias This Dr Who fic reced to me on Twitter. I enjoyed this but I think I would be better if I remembered these characters and the plot of The Importance of Being Earnest better.

Theatrical Sins: A Play in Three Acts by Aria Good Omens fic. I found this by poking the theater tag on AO3 it not actually about people putting on a show but rather people going to the theater but it's cute and fun.

On order:
The Swish of the Curtain by Pamela Brown reced by [personal profile] alchimie The library didn’t have this so I’ve ordered a used copy online.

So that's how my quest for theater fluff is going so far. I’m also thinking about rereading some of the Shoes books since they tend to hit this spot really well. I'd love even more recs! (Any medium is fine)
forestofglory: E. H. Shepard drawing of Christopher Robin and Pooh floating in a upturned  umbrella , with the word Ahoy in the corner (The Brain of Pooh)
*I've already posted my four "unpolished" posts for February! Go me but I feel still feel like writing stuff some here's another one.

*This weekend is kinda hectic. R is away at a con and we have a somewhat unexpected house guest. (She was expect to come visit but earlier in the week, and it wasn't planned that that she would stay with us.) Plus I'm feel a bit under the weather.

*House guest is very excited that I know what Mob grazing is so we chatted about grassland ecology and rangeland management. Grasslands are one of my favorite types of ecosystems and we need to protect them more.

*it's been raining so much over the last week. Very heavy rain too. I've been feeling a bit cooped up.
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Here's some thoughts on some of the media I've consumed recently:

*I saw a play! It was Metamorphoses by Mary Zimmerman and the Berkeley Rep! Its a play based on Ovid's Metamorphoses, so Roman myth, preformed with a pool. I'd seen this once before about 20 years ago but forgotten a lot. Anyways it was really good, I loved how the stories flowed together and how they used the water, but rather darker than I remembered.

*I'm still reading and enjoying Fruits Basket. I think I'm about at the point where I stopped reading years ago.

*R and I have been watching a little bit of Stargate (SG1). The pilot was not great, but he's been he's picked a few good episodes form the 1st season that I've enjoyed so far. I last one featured a kickass older woman scientist which was nice. Which also watched the 1st few episodes of netflix's Carmen San Diego, which was very pretty. But it didn't really grab either of us.

*I have ton of things out from the library just now. A lot of it is Fruits Basket, but there's also some other Manga, a few graphic novels, the most recent trade of Squirrel Girl, and couple of YA books I want to try to read before nominations close for the Lodestar.

*I've only got three stories left on in my 2018 short fiction TBR.

What are you reading and watching? Seen any live performances lately

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